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The University of Wisconsin at Stevens Point has proposed dropping 13 majors in the humanities and social sciences — including English, philosophy, history, sociology and Spanish — while adding programs with “clear career pathways” as a way to address declining enrollment and a multimillion-dollar deficit.

Здравый смысл в университете, поразительно по нынешним временам. Интересно, нет ли тут какой причинно-следственной связи с тем геноцидом, который тамошний губернатор Уокер устроил пару лет назад университетской публике.

Date: 2018-03-22 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
Пока что оно вполне полезное. У меня сын скоро заканчивает четырехлетнюю инженерную программу в Urbana-Champaign, так это совсем не ПТУ.

Date: 2018-03-22 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
engineering was never part of the problem. we are talking about other, murkier, majors.

in princeton, engineers were even freed form distribution requirements. one of D's family friends ( they had a "twins group" - was inmy class. AND in my club. she was shocked to realize we had not met. well, i was partying and playing volleyboll, she was studying.

Date: 2018-03-22 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
look. i taught in electrical engineering programs at undergrad, masters, and doctoral levels. as a TA, now as a professor.

these are not бесполезное образование. however there is plenty of english, anthropology, political science, women's studies, even european languages etc - that are basically useless in the sense that the graduates with an A.B. or B.A> or even B.S. are unemployable, since they have not acquired marketable skills.

i find it unwise to blame the university. the unis are commercial enterprises. they are not forcing anybody into their Theater major and Sociology minor. studnets are responsible for their choices - including bad ones, those who will land tehm in the market place without anything to claim other than ooo, i went to Yale.



Edited Date: 2018-03-22 02:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2018-03-22 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
Судя по тому, что о замене majors заговорили в связи с declining enrollment, студенты (и их родители, надо думать) начинают что-то подозревать. Мне понравилось, что это Висконсин. Я Ивану Ганди на DW говорил - вон в Mizzou после тамошнего воспаления социальной справедливость enrollment упал на треть за два года, так там такие идеи пока вроде не появились.

Date: 2018-03-22 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
я просто говорю что замена будет плохая, в моем опыте. я и наблюдала и сама участвовала в тектонических изменениях образовательных парадигмов - и это было всегда хуже в конце дня.
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