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NYT отмечает годовщину 9/11.

Сначала твитит вот что:



Подвергается за это закономерной хуле, насмешкам и поношению. После чего твит убивает, и меняет его вот на что:




Ни в новом твите, ни в статье, на которую оттуда ссылка, нет ни слова о том, что именно мотивировало самолеты врезаться в башни WTC. Это про Америку мы знаем, что в ней все мотивировано и обусловлено рабством и расизмом, а с самолетами мотив навсегда останется полной загадкой.



Date: 2019-09-11 12:23 pm (UTC)
leo_sosnine: (Default)
From: [personal profile] leo_sosnine
Полностью аналогично тракам и оружию. "Трак врезался в толпу" в случае понятных миноритиз, но "белый супремасист раздавил человека".

Date: 2019-09-11 01:10 pm (UTC)
alpinebear: (aggressive)
From: [personal profile] alpinebear
самолёты, блять. Вот, сука, автопилот того боинга взял и решл въебаться в банши. сволочи.

Date: 2019-09-11 02:46 pm (UTC)
yuras68: (Default)
From: [personal profile] yuras68
"Опять эта проклятая неизвестность"

Date: 2019-09-11 04:33 pm (UTC)
signamax: (Default)
From: [personal profile] signamax
где авва?
волнуюсь

Date: 2019-09-11 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] debedb
we must do something about plane violence

Date: 2019-09-12 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/sorcerer-/
> Сначала твитит вот что:

Если там была картинка то теперь ее нет.

Date: 2019-09-15 02:03 am (UTC)
stas: (Default)
From: [personal profile] stas
3,000 people were lost тоже ничо. Типа, потерялись. Пошли погулять, туман, упали в канаву и с тех пор их никто не видел. Тайна природы. Никакие исламские террористы не при чём, да и вообще непонятно, что произошло - так, "террор" атаковал, а люди не при чём.

Date: 2019-09-11 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexanderr.livejournal.com
а что вообще известно про 9/11? кто это сделал мы знаем?

Date: 2019-09-11 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
Нет, конечно. Мы вообще ничего не знаем, ни кто Боинг сбил, ни кто убил Кеннеди, ни летали ли американцы на Луну.

Date: 2019-09-11 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexanderr.livejournal.com
про Луну у меня нет сомнений, что мы летали. и еще полетим. про Боинг мне не интересно (кстати, какой Боинг?), они и так падают все время. а про Кеннеди действительно трудно поверить в magic bullet theory. ну вот трудно такое представить

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Date: 2019-09-11 12:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] julinona.livejournal.com
угу
some people did something(с)
:((

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Date: 2019-09-11 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veremeenko-alex.livejournal.com
Саудиты сделали, но виноват Афганистан и Иран.

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Date: 2019-09-11 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
Dear Ch., i view my preventive bans as a personal favor to blog owner. it prevents me from descending into a profane discussion with certain users. and saves the blog from being littered.


as to NYT, this is LOVELY, that first tweet is a gem, even without "some people did something".
>2000 people were .., maybe wiped out by bubonic plague? by a hurricane?

the second tweet at least mentions "terror". to write "islamist terror" is beyond the capacity of this revered ORGAN.

Date: 2019-09-11 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olga-mw.livejournal.com
Dear Ch,
Never fall for anything that may look like preventive bans. People who utilize them are not able to build better argument. Their total lack of wisdom is the sole reason for their preventive banning of opponents. Some people call these fans of preventive (or any other) bans on free speech IYIs (stands for Intellectual Yet Idiots)
Keep your discussion open since it will prevent you from degrading into partisan echo chambers.

Automation may address the issue of frustration with argument building that leads to calls for banning free speech: there are tons of decent bots available for variety of OS, pick one of your choice. The bot will facilitate pleasant conversation with those who is unable to handle any opinion different from their own.
Edited Date: 2019-09-11 03:03 pm (UTC)

(frozen)

Date: 2019-09-11 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com


тебе, кривомордая безграмотная пизда, тут не подадут.

и да, бан, конечно, чтобы этот обмен не продолжать.

Date: 2019-09-11 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
У меня есть другие способы спасаться от echo chambers. А здесь я хочу видеть далеко не всех, и баны сам практикую довольно решительно. Хотя и не превентивные.

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Date: 2019-09-11 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olga-mw.livejournal.com
Мой бот готов стартовать еще одна реплика и дорогая тандем байк будет снова, уже в третий раз, разговаривать с машиной. Похоже бот и правда неплох если с ним так хотят поговорить.
Я уже подумываю если не о патенте, то о трейдмарке, хотя конечно ничего лучше open source на сегодня нет.

Date: 2019-09-11 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
В этом случае мне придется Ваш бот забанить.

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Date: 2019-09-11 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solomon2.livejournal.com
Геббельсы будут геббельсить.

Date: 2019-09-11 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vsopvs.livejournal.com
бедная nyt ходит нынче по острию ножа. шаг влево, шаг вправо...

не то чтобы мне их жаль. за что боролись...

Date: 2019-09-11 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bbb.livejournal.com
Кроме «ебануться», ничего сказать не получается.

Date: 2019-09-12 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ny-quant.livejournal.com

Это какой-то позор

Date: 2019-09-12 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
Привычная уже вещь. Пока реагируем, скоро перестанем замечать, а многим уже и сейчас кажется, что так и надо.

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