no, a public library is a public space no less than a bus is.
you and Rezo are absolutely right that there IS a difference between a private club in a private university and a business class lounge of an airline, say.
but.. that difference is fuzzy too many times and loopholed in too many places.
that private university obtains massive federal support and state support for its students and its faculty, even if not directly for infrastructure, buildings, etc. there are millions x ?? by N of federal money, in which the university is invested and relying on crucially for research etc. so it is not strictly a PRIVATE enterprise, but a public-private partnership. and the feds have a right to demand equal treatment for all groups, and exclusion of university support for groups that discriminate.
the Ivy Club is on university property. its building, grounds, etc, are supported by the university. its members are university students who benefit from various grants directly or indirectly.
so is it TRULY a private space? of course not.
it is more fuzzy with the bakery - in theory, a private business like a BB or bakery can refuse services to anyone, including blacks jews and redhairs. however that place, any business, is not in a vacuum. it relies on town, to whom it pays, for trash removal, water, heat. so the town may impose its own standards of behavior on small business owners ans well as on hospitals and supermarkets. if they ( teh bakers) want to be true to their christian values, let them buy a lot in teh country, dig a well, buy a generator and declare that no redhairs jews or lesbians are welcome. that would be fine by me.
![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
no subject
Date: 2016-02-21 05:32 pm (UTC)you and Rezo are absolutely right that there IS a difference between a private club in a private university and a business class lounge of an airline, say.
but.. that difference is fuzzy too many times and loopholed in too many places.
that private university obtains massive federal support and state support for its students and its faculty, even if not directly for infrastructure, buildings, etc. there are millions x ?? by N of federal money, in which the university is invested and relying on crucially for research etc. so it is not strictly a PRIVATE enterprise, but a public-private partnership. and the feds have a right to demand equal treatment for all groups, and exclusion of university support for groups that discriminate.
the Ivy Club is on university property. its building, grounds, etc, are supported by the university. its members are university students who benefit from various grants directly or indirectly.
so is it TRULY a private space? of course not.
it is more fuzzy with the bakery - in theory, a private business like a BB or bakery can refuse services to anyone, including blacks jews and redhairs. however that place, any business, is not in a vacuum. it relies on town, to whom it pays, for trash removal, water, heat. so the town may impose its own standards of behavior on small business owners ans well as on hospitals and supermarkets. if they ( teh bakers) want to be true to their christian values, let them buy a lot in teh country, dig a well, buy a generator and declare that no redhairs jews or lesbians are welcome. that would be fine by me.
so .. in principle, all 1-2-3-4 are equal.