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chasovschik) wrote2016-02-09 07:17 pm
chasovschik) wrote2016-02-09 07:17 pm
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Посчитано пока меньше трети участков, но у Трампа и Сандерса такой отрыв, что они уже объявлены победителями. Рубио болтается пока пятым, хуже Круза с Бушем, вторым пока Кейсик.
UPD: напоминают, что событие было опять историческое: впервые primary выиграл еврей. В Айове тоже историю делали – там впервые выиграла женщина с одной стороны и латино с другой. Высока вероятность, что тенденция сохранится до ноября и выборы выиграет самый хреновый кандидат за всю американскую историю. Только еще не знаю, какой именно.
UPD: посчитали чуть больше половины. Единственное изменение – Круз слегка обошел Буша.
Mirrored from Gears and Springs.
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but Cruz i do, vehemently. me and about 3/4ths of americans i hope.
we are at the start of an impossible race - two unelectable populists, another one lurking in the bushes, and ... Hillary likely to be nominated just out of desperation.
i augur that, unfortunately.
however if reps uphold that trump card against her - i will vote for THAT, too. i just doubt he can win the flyover zones - including where i live.
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I wonder why.
Эк ты пoлевелa, прaвo слoвo.
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as to teh other issues i am exactly where i had been. no budging.
but i will not do a "partisan" vote for a disgusting man (Cruz) or an anti-party vote for disgusting woman (Hillary).
Cruz does not represent ANYTHING or ANYBPDY but the evangeicals. tehy are important voters, and not hte worst segment of our society, but i don't want one of them as a POTUS - especially a somewhat arrogant and angry guy.
i would vote for any of the others - including even Trump. i would take Sanders over Cruz.
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Меня, например. На пару процентов в меньшей степени, чем Рэнд, но лучше, чем все остальные. Или, скажем, одного моего коллегу - слабоверующего католика. Или еще троих моих личных знакомых, с которыми я обсуждал эти вопросы.
Давайте Вы попробуете отделить свои чувства от реальности и перестанете делать заявления про "никого, кроме" или "3/4 американцев". Что он не нравится лично Вам, мы все уже поняли. Остальное должно как-то соответствовать наблюдаемой картине.
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he represents Iowa. he's shown us that. he does not even represent his home state, his election was a joke, a ridiculous margin. he is a radical even for texas.
New Hampshire is my hoe state, and it used to be fiercely republican/libertarian - and you see how they dealt with Cruz.
Yes, Rand Paul would suit me, too.
but not Cruz. not because i dislike him - though i do - but because he - i repeat - does not represent conservtive americans, but represents lunatic tea party and evangelical fringe. if you are one of them, well, too bad.
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Реальность, Молли, не забываем! Реальность - это важно. Круз выиграл выборы в Техасе с перевесом в шестнадцать процентов. Ругань без опоры на реальность выглядит так себе.
Что до меня лично, то я это оставлю на Ваше усмотрение - решите уж сами, кто я, lunatic tea party или evangelical fringe. А то у меня с выбором проблемы.
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Jindal is a similar disaster. except what you can do in Louisiana you cannot do in Texas - it is a rigid state,
16% haha.
google not like stas-the-guglist, but like an independent disinterested persona.
whether you are a lunatic or a evangelical fringe - it is easy. you are a lunatic.
all of us a lunatics, with any hope that anybody DIFFERENT will be elected.
rand is also a lunatic, he just appeals to us. but he is less electable than trump. who is not a lunatic, but a coarse bully who just MIGHT make it.
though i don't know how. flyovers won't have him/ "new yourk values" stuck, thanks to that erbrechene flatface.
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Первая ссылка: (http://www.creators.com/conservative/phyllis-schlafly/why-did-ted-cruz-win-the-texas-primary.html)
To the surprise of the pundits, pollsters and predictors who think they are smarter than the rest of us, Ted Cruz won the nomination for U.S. Senator from Texas. A few months ago, he rated only 2 percent in the polls, but in the primary runoff, he coasted to a 14-point win.
His victory wasn't because he had more money or more prestigious endorsements or more valuable connections or more political experience. Maybe he defeated the establishment-backed candidate because he touched some hot-button issues that the grassroots care about but are ignored or even belittled by the mainstream media.
Вторая ссылка на Вики: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz)
Cruz ran for the Senate seat vacated by fellow Republican Kay Bailey Hutchison, and in July 2012 defeated Lieutenant Governor David Dewhurst during the Republican primary runoff, 57%–43%. Cruz then defeated former state Representative Paul Sadler in the November 2012 general election, winning 56%–41%.
Это мне показалось странным, потому что я помню про 16%. Проверил. Оказалось, 56.4% на 40.6%, то есть они округляли результаты, а я - разницу. Неважно, впрочем, как ни округляй - landslide.
А Вы где гуглили, если не секрет?
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i nearly took a job in texas ( x 2) , and i know the mood there and what they think of his win. it is mostly a left and libertarian crowd who thinks he hijacked the election because he was opposing a democrat and .. after Annie, no demos in texas.
however, am happy to share with you - i will have to re-google thanks sergey - the information that is kind of damaging to your position on his texan primacy.
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caveat - i DO NOT endorse the site as i know nohting about it. . this is just a point of view shared by my would-be colleagues in texas.
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На общих выборах разница в голосах была 4,440,137 к 3,194,927. Все эти разговоры про то, что на праймари народу проголосовало недостаточно много на вкус мудака-автора, интереса не представляют ни малейшего. Как и анекдотические свидетельства знаменитого типа "не понимаю, как Никсон выиграл, из моих знакомых за него никто не голосовал".
Давайте мы закроем эту тему, а? Подобные разговоры с подобной аргументацией несколько выходят за пределы моих представлений об осмысленном общении.
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ooo, i am not so sure.
but let's close, as this conversation annoys you and does not entertain me.
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У меня всё.
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your partisan sympathies made you insensible to simple facts :-)))
you want this creep to be the next POTUS.
fine, fine, i won't argue, and as you know Gr.Eggies argued with you about something different, i don't unfriend people over politics.
but.. you want this christian eblan to be our president. oy, oy and oy!
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Написал. Стер. ОК.
Пошел спать. Яркий сегодня был день.
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я не собиралась возобновлять крузо-дискуссию, но возобновляю - скажу что я вообще засомневалась в своих чувствах - думаю если такой человек как вы готов голосовать за щтого пиздюка, может я что-то не поняла, может я где-то заблуждаюсь? еще раз посмотрела всякие его позиции и поговорила с уважаемым мной человеком, который голосует республикански, но еси Круз получит номинацию, голосовать не пойдет. он посоветовал сайт Воут Смарт. сказал что это балансированный лево-правый сайт с серьезной попыткой вутравить из кандидатов их позиции кторые они недостаточно смелые чтобы обсуждать публично. они хорошо поддерживают свои выводы о позициях кандидатов. эта группа в Монтане, в флайовер, понятен пень.
Берни и Тед конечноотказались брать их тест "политическоого мужества".
но вот их результаты для круза. оставив в покое то что мне непирятен его
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-Pro-life - pro-ifers are disgudting and odious people. all of them. not because they believe abortion is murder - i do too - but because they push their beliefs onto other people. this position crashes violently with their anti-protectionist stances on environment, etc. and you have girls. just stretch your imagination. when she is 14 and pregnant? don't tell me it does not happen to nice families like yours. it does.
In order to balance the budget, do you support an income tax increase on any tax bracket?
-he does not. and i do support an income tax increase for individuals in the 1% range. i also support income tax breaks for middle middle and lower middle classes, families earning less than 75 K a year.
-to balance the budget without tax increases is only possible if we cut down on government spending. that would be nice, but nobody could do it so far, republican or democrat. it is a LUNATIC hope/idea
-Do you support mandatory minimum sentences for non-violent drug offenders?
-he does not neither do i. i am with him on that.
Do you support federal spending as a means of promoting economic growth?
-he does not. but this is a trick question. because federal spending DOES promote economic growth, and promotes science and discovery on the way. it just needs to be the RIGHT spending. it took billions of dollars to finally luck out on these gravitational waves. under ted cruz, it would not happen.
Do you support lowering taxes as a means of promoting economic growth?
he does, and i don't. i am still to see ONE reasonable theory of how lower taxes promote economic growth.
Do you support requiring states to implement education reforms in order to be eligible for competitive federal grants?
-he does not, but he still wants federal handouts to states - his state is a good example. Pepka needs to jump to get her cookie. TX is one of the worst 4 states in the union where educaiton is concerned. LA is the worst thanks to Bobby Jindal.
Do you support building the Keystone XL pipeline?
-he does. i have no opinion.
Do you support funding for the development of renewable energy (e.g. solar, wind, thermal)?
-he does not. thinks the industries should compete on their on. another lunatic position - they cannot. they need a booster, or will be dead in the water.
Do you support the federal regulation of greenhouse gas emissions?
-he does not. and i do. most of civilized world does - no, all of it except us.
Do you generally support gun-control legislation?
-he does not, i don't. the second "agree" of Molly Bloom and Ted Cruz.
Do you support repealing the 2010 Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare")?
-he does, idiot. 20 million people now have access to care, taking it back is not possible. redoing it is possible. but he wants to "repeal"? that is similar to "repealing" medicare. won't happen. unrealistic. lunatic. O-care sucks, but "repealing" a done deal is like making hamburger into a steak. can be done, but a trashy steak it will be.
Do you support requiring illegal immigrants to return to their country of origin before they are eligible for citizenship?
-he does. LUNATIC> take 11 million and "return them to their countries", aha.
Do you support same-sex marriage?
-does not. and i do.
Do you support targeting suspected terrorists outside of official theaters of conflict?
-he does. i do. so 3 hits so far.
Do you support allowing individuals to divert a portion of their Social Security taxes into personal retirement accounts?
-he does. i don't have an opinion.
so, this is entirely objective. he is a lunatic re immigration, obamacare, and a dangerous fundamentalist re social issues. he refuses to compromise and is a my-way-or-highway politician. he has zero experience or understanding of foreign policy. he wants to carpet-bomb syria and interfere in norea.
he is odious, dangerous and .. a fringe candidate. why would someone like you want a fringe evangelical to represent this country??? he represents Iowa, and some parts of TX and LA. i am stumped and perplexed at your support of him.,,,
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Чтo мнед oбaвить? Ну рaзве чтo oн предстaвляет не тoлькo евaнгелистoв, нo и меня (и Чaсoвщикa, кaк oн сaм скaзaл). И ещё дoстaтoчнo мнoгих людей кoтoрых я знaю. Кстaти, пo пoвoду евaнгелистoв. Бек - Мoрмoн, нo oн егo endorsed. Хoтя рaньше не делaл тaкoгo ни для кaких кaндидaтoв.
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