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WaPo публикует текст выступления комика Hasan Minhaj на эпохальном торжественном обеде White House Correspondents. Специально для our intellectual betters шутки выделены желтым цветом и снабжены пояснениями, почему это должно быть смешно. Это был гвоздь программы; прочие выступления на этом пиру духа выглядели примерно так же.

Что тут скажешь. Не знаю, есть ли в этом заслуга Трампа, но прессе, похоже, конец. Протухла.

Mirrored from Gears and Springs.

Date: 2017-04-30 09:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yostrov
>Не знаю, есть ли в этом заслуга Трампа, но прессе, похоже, конец.
Это не заслуга Трампа.
Заслуга Трампа в том, что он указал на эту проблему.

Date: 2017-04-30 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yankel.livejournal.com
Вам, из пузыря, не все видно!

Date: 2017-04-30 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] old-sam.livejournal.com
Indeed. Fox News going down the same drain.

I'm going to sign up for the O' Reilly and The Daily Wire podcasts, but that's mostly out of desperation.

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Date: 2017-05-01 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merig00.livejournal.com
Love Ben Shapiro podcasts on Daily Wire. The Rubin Report on youtube is good too.

Date: 2017-04-30 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
no, my dear. NYT today is VERY equivocal. :-) very trump-positive.. seriously...

Date: 2017-04-30 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rezoner.livejournal.com
Indeed? could you give n example? so far, what i see is headlines like this:
This Isn't Tax Policy; It's a Trump-Led Heist
Trump on Korea: Tactic? Madman Theory? Or Mixed Messages?

Date: 2017-04-30 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
Like this (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/30/business/white-house-correspondents-dinner.html)?

Date: 2017-04-30 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
угу. там сплошная жалобность. никто не пришел из звезд, да и политики их бойкотнули ....

а дуракьведущий - Wary of looking biased, many prominent journalists in the ballroom kept a poker face during Mr. Minhaj’s nastier punch lines. (He called Stephen K. Bannon, Mr. Trump’s chief strategist, a “Nazi” and labeled the attorney general, Jeff Sessions, a racist, moments quickly featured on Breitbart News and other right-wing news sites. - себя зарыл хорошенько и навсегда.

Бэннон то и это но не "нацист". а уж Сешшонз не расист что кажется уже ясно всем кроме новорожденных.

пока они эту хуйню повторяют - никто не слушает.

а на первой странице НЙТ типа "Трамп вырос, дорос, подрос, лялялялял"

Date: 2017-04-30 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] old-sam.livejournal.com
Ну, все, и этот спекся. Если NYT хвалит, что-то он делает не так.

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Date: 2017-05-01 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
В ведущие понадобился иммигрант-мусульманин, нашли кого смогли. И текст ему написали какой смогли. Так что жалобность не жалобность, а квалификации там, увы, нету. Только и хватило повторять, что мы, мол, не fake news.

Про первую же страницу не знаю - бумаги я не вижу, а на сайте их я такого не нашел.

Date: 2017-05-01 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chasovschik.livejournal.com
Не знаю, не вижу там ничего особенного. Разве что по меркам NYT. Читатели, впрочем, весьма впечатлены, комментарии там - залюбуешься.

"I refuse to normalize. RESIST!" (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/29/us/politics/trump-presidency-100-days.html#permid=22312271)

Date: 2017-05-01 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rezoner.livejournal.com
Вот это?

"Mr. Trump’s presidency so far seemed unlike almost any other, except perhaps Andrew Jackson’s. She noted that Jackson was seen as erratic at the time but was later evaluated by historians as a near-great president."

Date: 2017-05-01 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
yep, and more. he has not DELIVERED MUCH OF WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD, BUT HE DID STIR UP THE HORNETS' NESTS SOME. sorry for caplock, it got stuck.

Date: 2017-05-01 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rezoner.livejournal.com
P.S. well, after today's article, I take my words back:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/29/us/politics/trump-presidency-100-days.html?_r=0

Basically, the author stops short of calling him an historic figure (after 100 days!)

Date: 2017-05-01 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rezoner.livejournal.com
Amazing. Who would expect?

Interesting thing is that it's jut a basic fairness. And we read is as something revolutionary :) Sad! (c)

Date: 2017-05-01 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
true. but... that is a good start. and the TONE changed, other than by the idiot CH. cites.

there is a definite change.

i have not made it onto the editorial page, expect it is all the same kristoff etc.

but maureen dowd was first to .. move towards hima a bit. she is not an idiot.
Edited Date: 2017-05-01 02:34 am (UTC)

Date: 2017-05-01 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rezoner.livejournal.com
You know, sometimes I feel pity about those idiots. They sound like Jacob jerk-off.

Date: 2017-05-01 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
well, HIM i have nothing but disdain for. he is a creep. THEY - i guess it depends on who "they" are. some are genuinely confused...

Date: 2017-05-01 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rezoner.livejournal.com
Let me politely disagree. That's not what I call "genuinely confused". I'd rather say "following the party line".

Date: 2017-05-01 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tandem-bike.livejournal.com
wait, that's true about Jerkov, he is intellectually dishonest.

i mean democrats who were in despair over Trump, now they are beginning to see that his actions are "tempered" as he realizes that his power is limited and "it is complicated".

it is funny how the remaining virulent antitrumpistas call the failed repeal of ACA a major defeat. it is a major win, what was offered instead is shamelessly steeped in insurance lobby interests and NOTHING ELSE. i expect he will be passing health care over to states slowly. even now your medicaid and say idaho molina are incomparable. texas and other southern states have capped malpractice, and created an "indigent medicine" system - breaking the backbone of american medical care quietly. so, we will see change, but not a sea change ( pun intended, sorry).


the other thing they do is predict an ecological disaster because he removed some regulations and dismantled some pieces of some agencies.

Date: 2017-05-01 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nebotticelli-xl.livejournal.com
Окраска и пояснение шуток - таки гвоздь.
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