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chasovschik) wrote2018-11-02 09:49 am
Из зала суда
Фокс клевещет, что караванщики затеяли судить Трампа за нарушение их гражданских прав. Превентивно, до того, как он их нарушил то есть.
A dozen migrants traveling by foot from Honduras to the U.S. to seek asylum filed a class-action lawsuit Thursday against President Trump, the Department of Homeland Security and others, claiming a violation of their due process under the Fifth Amendment.
The Fifth Amendment states that, "no person… shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law."
A recent PBS report cited former Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, who ruled in 1993 case that "it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in a deportation proceeding."
Twelve Honduran nationals, including six children, are listed as plaintiffs in the lawsuit. The suit, which was filed Thursday in the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., said it is widely known that Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are “undergoing a well-documented human rights crisis.” The lawsuit also claims that the plaintiffs’ right to the Administrative Procedures Act and the Declaratory Judgement Act were being infringed upon.
Вот теперь совсем трудно не поверить, что караван организовал лично Трамп.
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Эт-тoчнo! :)
Нo, кaк этo не печaльнo, дoстaтoчнo мнoгo впoлне oбычных людей в реaле пoлaгaет, чтo этo прaвильнo, и чтo инoстрaнцы, дaже не нaхoдящиеся нa территoррии СШA, имеют всевoзмoжные прaвa, дaвaемые Кoнституцией (и другими зaкoмaни) и т. д. Тaк чтo ктo егo знaет, мoжет, Трaмп и прoсчитaлся.
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Это при условии, что караван и впрямь организован Трампом, ггг.
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BTW we like ( you too) to make certain conclusion based on ethnicity and stemming from our own experience.
mine is that chinese doctors and PhD students are incredible pigs judging on womans' bathrooms during our usual natl internatl confa.
you said certain things about dealing with other group and their mores, different from ours.
i am stunned by the difference between mexican illegals and central american illegals that i have observed ( mostly in my previous state).
entitlement, arrogance, poor adaptation is - guess which of those two completely separate groups?
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mexicans are hard workers, send all the money home, eventually may transfer family. htey don't drink or do drugs. they do smoke, poor souls.
thi sis my mexican stereotype. i had seen many.
central americans are.. let's say /// can be arrogant, ugly, entitled and lazy, too.
i am sure, not all, heaven forbid. but thiose granted asylum, legalized, on welfare medicaid food stamps and asking for more, for example, for a disability they don't have. but someone told them it is an extra 2K per month. why not.
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But as for Central Americans... I know personally a number of really nice, soft, friendly and educated guys.
The best are, again in my HO, Haitians.
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but don't let your womenfolk go there as tourists. There is a recent epidemic of rapes at resorts.
by resort employees or.. security, of all people.
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У нас уборщицы из Эквадора. Работают у своей бандерши (которая, что интересно, двумя руками за Трампа) за копейки и без выходных, посылают деньги домой кормить детей, которых они не видят годами. Дрожат от страха, что за любую погрешность, если мы пожалуемся, их оштрафуют и накажут, это с ними уже бывало. По сравнению с ними стандартный нелегальный бэбиситтер из хСССР просто в масле катается, хотя и у них жизнь не сахар.
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Кстати, вы читали сам lawsuit? 32 страницы профессионально написанного текста, несколько адвокатских контор. Или они все в долг работают, за проценты :) ?