Ну да

[chasovschik]

К вопросу о трансгендерах в спорте: там погоды стоят предсказанные. Пишут, в Коннектикуте на школьном чемпионате штата по легкой атлетике в спринте у девочек сразу два трансгендера оказались наверху. Первое и второе места на дистанциях в сто и двести метров. Третьи места пока все-таки у девочек. Рекорды штата (для девочек) тоже, само собой, побиты.

Интересно, как бы выглядела эта ситуация, если бы ее творчески рассмотрели с юридической точки зрения а la ACLU. С применением Title IX, который и написан-то был специально по поводу равноправия женщин в спорте. Но, видимо, некому этим заниматься, ACLU только в одну сторону работает.

Comments

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

dunno. i am not well-versed in this topic.
i think transgenderism has become a ZHUPEL - it is actually fairly rare. but is being talked about bathrooms, army - as though it is a huge issue.


consider this. i am 56. i have lived in america for many decades. i know and interact with thousands of people. i brought up two kids and saw hundreds of their peers, i saw them "intimately", meaning in my house and my lake house, i watched them grow up.

thus, i have a VERY REASONABLE idea about homosexuality, how it occurs, when, and what ensues. i also know hundreds of people with same sex partners. so i think i have an understanding of some sort.


i do not know a SINGLE transgendered person. i heard of them, read their stories. but i had never seen one or taken care of one as a doctor, and.. i think it means something, no? personal anecdotal statistics matter when you are over 50, very social, working with people.

why a rare and severe condition, gender confusion + body dysmorphism, is elevated to a societal issue - I DO NOT GET.

[alexanderr.livejournal.com]

I agree 100% that this is not as common as being gay. However, since it can be very profitable (say, it can be a path to a gold medal in the Olympics), it is easy to predict that it can become very commonplace in high level/professional sports

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

i suppose i'll believe it when i see it.

we have one .. hmm, pocohontas... an aberration. if more politicians claimed false or unprovable association with american indians, i would believe your fear more.


do you see how this is similar? :-)

[alexanderr.livejournal.com]

ok, ok, let's wait and see. for now we do not have much, just a few talented 800m women runners careers totally destroyed and thrown under the bus. it's not *all* athletic events, yet. but others are watching. this is a very profitable business, if you are in the top 10 in the world in any event, you make a lot of $$$. if 800m plays out so that, ok, former/transgender males can compete as women and collect paychecks with no legal consequences. well, in that case it is only a matter of time. and it's not just $$$, you get your ugly mug shown on TV, etc etc you get to be effing famous. you cannot put a price tag on that. you go from a totally anonymous loser male to a world famous champion transgender female.

most/many professional athletes are ready to literally die to achieve their goals. they would absolutely drop dead if that would get them the medal and if that would be legal. there's nothing they would not do to turn the dream into reality. if becoming transgender is a way to do, they would do in a heartbeat

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

thi sis a gedanken. a scenario. if i see even 1/100th of it realized i will agree with you.

but as is it looks bizarre. like i said - trans is RARE as opposed to homo.