Ну да

[chasovschik]

К вопросу о трансгендерах в спорте: там погоды стоят предсказанные. Пишут, в Коннектикуте на школьном чемпионате штата по легкой атлетике в спринте у девочек сразу два трансгендера оказались наверху. Первое и второе места на дистанциях в сто и двести метров. Третьи места пока все-таки у девочек. Рекорды штата (для девочек) тоже, само собой, побиты.

Интересно, как бы выглядела эта ситуация, если бы ее творчески рассмотрели с юридической точки зрения а la ACLU. С применением Title IX, который и написан-то был специально по поводу равноправия женщин в спорте. Но, видимо, некому этим заниматься, ACLU только в одну сторону работает.

Comments

[nicolas83.livejournal.com]

> минимум что общество обязано сделать

А копрофилам и каннибалам в ресторонах соответствующее их пищевым пристрастиям подавать?

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

no. again, your analogies suck. i see that you are not too friendly towards transsexuals, but comparing them with cannibals is to put it mildly - abominable.

[nicolas83.livejournal.com]

As you please :-)

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

i please my english - russian too - going down the drain,. fast. compare TO, not WITH. dammit. :(

but you yes - your stance smacks of a very russian male prejudice. you need to accept "other than normal" in your taxonomy.

[nicolas83.livejournal.com]

"Comparing with" is OK assuming that objects compared are of the same order.

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

granted.

[nicolas83.livejournal.com]

BTW, Реза Аслан с CNN и Ричард Докинз, к примеру, не считают каннибализм таким уж ужасным - один практиковал в прямом эфире, другой это предполагает (пока tissue culture, правда).

The British biologist said creating human meat to eat could be an 'interesting test case' for 'consequentialist morality versus "yuck reaction" absolutism.

Так что на данный момент совсем не очевидно, чьи взгляды устарели :-)

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

okay, whatever. but what is it with transsexuals that you find so unpleasant? have they come into your house and garden and violated your wife or your dog?


so they compete with XX women and win because of XY bodies. so what? it is just another "biological advantage".

the williams sisters are XX but play male tennis. so ? the hungarian whatchamacall it sisters are XX but play male chess. the late stanford-iranian mathematician was XX but played male math. so?

[nicolas83.livejournal.com]

They attack lesbians!!

http://www.afterellen.com/general-news/559907-queer-identified-women-jump-lesbian-outside-of-a-drag-show

А почему Вы каннибалов не любите? Они кого-то у Вас съели? Я уж молчу про корейцев (а у Вас собачка...)

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

that was not a genuine answer. trolling on thursdsay is okay, but today is monday - was when i last checked, anyway.

[nicolas83.livejournal.com]

Yes, on Monday it's absolutely inappropriate and reprehensible. Mea culpa. I apologize.

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

good. come back on thursday.

[nicolas83.livejournal.com]

> the williams sisters are XX but play male tennis.

Pardon my ignorance, can you please provide me sone their match scores in male tennis? (Hint: 1998, Karsten Braasch)

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

i don't want to do specifics. sorry. i meant they play a powerful game with a killer serve that is unusual in classical girl tennis.

there is a shift towards "transification" of all sports.

[nicolas83.livejournal.com]

> i don't want to do specifics

I agree.

How can be "transification of ALL sports" if, as you've said, "it's rare and severe condition"?

[tandem-bike.livejournal.com]

i meant that both men and women became ( i mean elite athletes) stronger and more muscular and have higher endurance and capacity, and "records" keep being updated.

so - women who compete in ? say tennis- became more "man-like" in terms of muscle bulk and power. that is what i mean by "transification" a bad word. i meant more lie? androgenization"?


but i insist that transism, true transsexuality, is rare.